At a city council meeting in Missouri discussing whether to add sexual orientation and gender identity to the list of non-discrimination rules, Brentwood Christian Church pastor Phil Snider pretended to oppose the measure by quoting old arguments from segregationists in the 1950's and 60's. The switcheroo comes at 1:46 minutes.
How ironic that a gay rights advocate would utilize an old racial segregation argument. After all, if segregating by race is wrong, why do gay rights activists believe segregating by gender is good?
Same sex marriage divides couples by gender and separates children from their mother or father. That's segregation.
Snider at 1:46 minutes:
How ironic that a gay rights advocate would utilize an old racial segregation argument. After all, if segregating by race is wrong, why do gay rights activists believe segregating by gender is good?
Same sex marriage divides couples by gender and separates children from their mother or father. That's segregation.
The right of segregation is clearly established by the Holy Scriptures both by precept and example.
I'm sorry. I brought the wrong notes with me this evening.
I borrowed my argument from the wrong century. It turns out what I've been reading to you this whole time are direct quotes from white preachers from the 1950's and the 1960's, all in support of racial segregation. All I have done is simply take out the phrase "racial integration" and substituted it with the phrase "gay rights."
I guess the arguments I've been hearing around Springfield lately sounded so similar to these that I got them confused. I hope you will not make the same mistake.
Defend pro-gender marriage. Because gender matters to everyone, including people with
same-sex attraction.
So this man PROVES that religious arguments were used for racial discrimination, and yet you deny it in comments below this one?
ReplyDeleteFran, you make no sense, and you still refuse to answer the most basic question as to whether or not you would support the right of a man to, based on religion, discriminate against interracial couples. Until you answer that question, Fran, you have literally no legs to stand on in any argument regarding marriage equality.
Defend equality. Because equality matters to everyone.
Simply because someone else uses religion to defend something I don't believe in doesn't mean all religions are wrong or that religious freedom is not a constitutional right in America.
DeleteLook at the Islamic terrorists and what they do in the name of religion. I don't advocate using religion like that. But it doesn't follow that we need to allow gay rights activists to redefine marriage simply because someone else misused religion.
There are natural and scientific reasons to oppose same-sex marriage. See: Marriage = Biology (Not Bigotry)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cQCi4ehXkg&feature=player_embedded
As for defending equality--don't all children have equal rights to both a mother and a father? Why deprive some children of a mother simply because their dad has SSA? Isn't that discriminating against children of gays?
So you don't support using religion to deny interracial couples goods and services, but you do when it's a gay couple? That's awful of you, Fran. You're violating people's religious freedoms
DeleteAlso, continuing to refer to it as "Gender-segregation" is an insult to those who suffer REAL gender segregation
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_segregation
My point is that gay rights activists frame SSM as homosexual discrimination or a gay right. But changing marriage is about GENDER not just sexual orientation. Instead of gender segregation is it more accurate to call it anti-gender or gender-exclusive?
DeleteWould you say Robert Lopez suffered "REAL gender segregation"? His mother had same sex attraction and raised him with the help of her female partner. What should we call this type of suffering?
"I had no male figure at all to follow, and my mother and her partner were both unlike traditional fathers or traditional mothers. As a result, I had very few recognizable social cues to offer potential male or female friends . . . Gay people who grew up in straight parents’ households may have struggled with their sexual orientation; but when it came to the vast social universe of adaptations not dealing with sexuality—how to act, how to speak, how to behave—they had the advantage of learning at home. Many gays don’t realize what a blessing it was to be reared in a traditional home."
http://www.homegriddle.com/2012/08/what-gay-rights-activists-dont-want-you.html
Yeah, I'd call staying with one parent and visiting her lover on weekends outside of the city who lived in a trailer park as "being raised by gay parents".
DeleteOdd that you don't mention Zach Wahls or the multitudes of other people raised by gay couples who are well-adjusted contributing members of society.
When I heard Zach's testimony, it struck me as odd that he was so pleased his sister had the same father (sperm donor) that he had. This young man was genuinely grateful that he was biologically related to his lil sis not just with his mother's genes, but also connected by their mutual father.
DeleteWhy would that even matter, if fatherhood is as irrelevant as same sex marriage advocates claim it is??
Also, I give his mother credit for encouraging him to do Scouts so he would have access to manly and fatherly influences that were lacking in his home.
I hope that if Zach Wahls marries he does not follow his mother's example and choose to exclude the complementary gender from his life and that of his children. I hope he does not prohibit a relationship between his children and their mother the way his mom prevented him from knowing his dad.
I hope Zach chooses to marry a young lady.
Also, if Zach Wahls chooses to become a father, I hope he donates more to his children than his father (anonymous sperm donor) did. I hope Zach donates his time and love and commitment to the beautiful father/child bond.
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